Ok, I've waited long enough and again, you've all likely talked about this epic movie to death.
So, let's talk about it some more. :)
First, let's jump into the rating: 8 out of 10.
You can guess all the reasons why it's 8
* Action was awesome.
* Cast was awesome.
* Seeing all the amazing characters together was awesome.
* Scale was awesome (NY, SPACE, WAKANDA)
* Dialogue between characters was awesome.
Ok, now, why wasn't it a 10 out of 10?
Can you guess?
THE ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Spoilers ahead.
*I mean it.
*I'm not kidding.
The Ending:
Nope, I'm not really a fan of the ending.
Because as it's become more apparent since seeing the movie for some, I KNEW while watching, that the Deaths were bullshit. And yes, that matters to me.
Why does it matter?
BECAUSE they couldn't actually pull the trigger—even with Thanos being the bad guy who they've hyped for a decade—and kill off character A, who needed to die, in my opinion, inorder to show a true COST to the heroes failed efforts.
*There should've been more deaths, but we'll get to that in a moment.
And so, because they didn't think the death of character B (anyone else really) would makeup for the lack of character A's death, they decided to go with option C:
FAKE KILL A TON OF CHARACTERS
Ontop of two actual deaths (which may or may not be real given the ability to screw with time.)
NOOOOOO!
Even if character A dies in A4, the cost of fighting Thanos TWICE won't be equal to the effort.
Also, since they're going to save/rescue all those heroes who died, if some of them DIE DIE a second time in A4, then their fake deaths in A3 will be extra silly: "Yeah, they weren't dead dead then, but now, oh yeah, they're dead dead....wink wink."
On top of that, what was the actual purpose of Thano's Kids?
At the end of the movie, did they do anything that really mattered?
Did they, by the end of the movie, really HURT any of the Avengers?
NOOOOOO!
So, they were Bobba Fett. They looked cool, but in the end, were pretty easily defeated. And one, well, she got really close to killing Scarlet Witch, but when she later faced off against two HUMAN FEMALES (don't care about their skills) couldn't even significantly injure them!!!!!!! So what, she was pulling her punches?
In fact, the only person who was significantly injured was Iron Man, but then, yeah, he used his Science Spray and healed himself. And no, what happened to Vision doesn't count, cause I don't think he's DEAD DEAD either.
Now. after being upset with the ending, I did have a chance to mull over why Marvel might've choosen not to go the hard road and lay-low some of it's heroes and the only thing I could think of, was that they were planning on doing something extra extra crazy to fill in the gap between A4:
1) New Black Panther Movie: Okoye steps up and becomes New Black Panther or a NEW Female Wakandan hero in the absence of the King. *Lots of fun plot ideas to play with there.
2) New Iron Man movie: Shuri is asked to step up and pilot/be Iron Man while Tony recovers and considers the next move for the Avengers in the wake of Thanos.
3) New Dr. Strange movie: Wong becomes acting Sorcerer Supreme while Dr. Strange is "MII". *Lots of fun plot ideas to play with there.
4) New Spider Man movie: Miles Morals :)
5) Marvel has recovered the rights to the Fantastic Four, so my hope was that they'd somehow get thrown into the mix, maybe via Antman and Wasp discovering them in the Microverse at the end of their teamup movie.
6) New F4 movie, which deals with the team dealing with 2018 and the fall of the Avengers in the wake of Thanos: Steve would find a friend in Mr. Fantastic and with the help of Tony, they would of course learn how to save the Avengers.......
AND THAT would make the COST of all those characters fake dying, actually worth it; because it would show the fans that despite our knowing that the heroes weren't actually DEAD DEAD, this, THIS, is what it took to figure a way to save them, otherwise, well, they were DEAD DEAD.
And then you'd get the most amazing thing that would ever, ever, never-ever-again happen in movies: NEW Black Panther, NEW Iron Man, NEW Sorcerer Supreme and NEW Spider Man, standing alongside the surviving Avengers (Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, War Machine, Widow, Hawkeye, Antman, Wasp) plus the surviving GotG (Nebula and Rocket) to save and then fight shoulder-to-shoulder with all the heroes that vanished: Spider Man, Bucky, Falcon, Black Panther, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Star Lord, Drax, Groot, Gamora and Mantis PLUS the F4!!!!!!!????????
COULD YOU IMAGINE THAT?
COULD YOU?
NO, because your head has JUST ^&%$#@! EXPLODED!
But no. No. No. Marvel didn't push back it's rollout dates for A4.
So, what did we get from A3:
We got Loki, Valkyrie (off camera) and Heimdall dying (depending upon what the time stone does), Gamora being sacrificed (inside the Soul stone) and Vision being "killed" (though we know he's within the mind stone and the time) and little to no secondary character deaths, ontop of no body count at the hands of Thanos' kids—despite how cool they looked or POWERFUL we were supposed to feel they were.
But it's all ok, because Thanos did kill half the universe; never mind we know that'll all be fixed.
Sorry, the end wasn't what I wanted. Sorry if I've now made you realize the same.
I wanted Captain America to die, after standing up to Thanos. Sacrificing himself.
I wanted Thanos' kids to kill at least some of the "Human" members of the Avengers: War Machine, Black Widow, Falcon, Okoney (other badass yet human Wakandan MCs) and I wanted them to really really injure the stronger members of the Avengers; this of course would limit the LOTR style battle at the end of the movie.
Which brings me to the creatures in Thanos' army. In the movie, they overpowered the Hulk Buster as well as Captain America, Black Panther and Bucky.....the strongest non god/armored robots on the Avengers—and yet Black Widow wasn't eaten by them? Okoney wasn't eaten by them?
In my opinion, this is at the root of many F/SF: They overplayed how baddass and monstrous the creatures were.........and then had them fail to even wound a single member of the Avengers in any meaningful way.
This, I think is Marvel's only flaw which has long existed within related Genres.
They still view these as Comic Characters and so they don't respect them enough or their audience to treat this as a drama. If this were a dramatic war movie, not a super hero scifi, how many of these characters would've died?
That's what I want. A little more respect.
*Need I remind you, they allowed Quick Silver to be SHOT????? SHOT????
*Also, in Civil War, there was alot more blood on Cap's face and Bucky had his arm blown off......
Vs Thanos, Captain America should've died and his death should've inspired Bucky/Falcon to become the new Cap and in A4. Where Bucky, like his hero, should've either died fighting or sacrificed himself, leaving Falcon to become the new leader of the NEW AVENGERS. Because that's where we're headed. The New Avengers will be formed.
Too bad, at the end, Thanos (unless A4 proves otherwise) will be just another Marvel Villain, except he'll have taken ten times as long to defeat with little consequence to the team.
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
8 out of 10 because of the ending.
Who knows, it's a Two Parter, so maybe when I see them one after the other I'll feel differently.
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